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The Princess and the Frog was supposed to be Disney's animated triumph. Now it's turning into the Mouse House's latest headache.
(Source: jimhillmedia.com) When John Lasseter stood on the stage in New Orleans’ Ernest N. Morial Convention Center last March and announced WDFA’s latest project, The Frog Princess, it was supposed to be a proud moment for the entertainment conglomerate. The Frog Princess was going to be the first cel-animated movie from Disney since 2005. Not only that, the Mouse House was bringing back the legendary team of Ron Clements and John Musker (Aladdin, The Little Mermaid) to develop the project. To make this film even more spectacular, The Frog Princess was going be set in 1920’s New Orleans and feature the character of Maddy, who would become the first African-American Disney princess. Anika Noni Rose won the role, after a highly-publicized casting call. Fast-forward to a month later, and Disney’s PR department is running scared, telling Internet bloggers and news organizations everything they know about the movie is wrong. “ . . . there is incorrect information being circulated about Disney's 2009 motion picture The Princess and the Frog (whose previous working title was The Frog Princess),” the press statement read. “The central character is a young girl named Princess Tiana. The story takes place in the charming elegance and grandeur of New Orleans' fabled French Quarter during the Jazz Age . . . Princess Tiana will be a heroine in the great tradition of Disney's rich animated fairy tale legacy, and all other characters and aspects of the story will be treated with the greatest respect and sensitivity. “This American fairy tale is several years away from completion and the creative process is ongoing . . . unfortunately much of the information that has surfaced, including the casting breakdown . . . is inaccurate. When we do casting calls we frequently use substitute information as we don't want details out about the movies. Therefore that information you have is incorrect." So what the hell happened? Why is the Mouse House being so defensive? It's simple. Disney’s euphoria quickly turned to horror when bloggers exploded over what they saw as racist elements in this flick. “I was not only unimpressed with this too-little-too-late idea, but downright wary of the thought of White folks writing about Black folks and presenting it to Black children,” wrote Jennifer Daniels on BET. “As it turned out, my ‘Boys’ could write a better story than this.” The vitriol continues: “ . . . our plucky young Black protagonist, Maddy, as a chambermaid. There's also a plantation owner, two practitioners of voodoo – one a Magical Negro, the other a villain – a singing alligator, and score by the whitest White man to ever rest his head in the Big Easy, Randy Newman. (Were the Neville brothers & Harry Connick, Jr., busy?). Knowing Disney, I'm sure there's a dead parent somewhere in the mix. The living parent, Maddy's mother Eudora, is also a maid. Somebody turns into a frog. Oh, and the prince is White." Daniels denounced, “a movie like The Frog Princess, with its touching tale of a po' Black chile (sic) being rescued from the Big Black Voodoo Daddy by a great White hope in the pre-Civil Rights Movement South not only offensive and ignorant of history, but highly insensitive as well.” Others complained the name “Maddy” sounded like a slave’s name and that her position as chambermaid for a spoiled, white girl was demeaning. Oh yes, and many were offended that the film’s villain, Dr. Duvalier, was a voodoo priest. Needless to say, Disney was shocked over this racial firestorm especially since the Mouse House is considering re-issuing 1946’s Song of the South on DVD. SotS, despite being an Oscar-winning movie, has as many detractors as admirers. Some praised the film’s animation and story while others claimed the character of Uncle Remus was pandering to White stereotypes of southern blacks. Bowing to public pressure, Disney CEO Robert Iger recently softened his stance on releasing it on DVD. He asked chairman Dick Cook to determine whether the time was right to return Song of the South to store shelves. He even asked Clements & Musker to create a teaser for The Princess and the Frog to go on the DVD. However, the Mouse House is now frightened that the current controversy will destroy any chance of Song of the South getting a fair shake. At this point, rumour says the Mouse House is considering a limited run of SotS DVD’s under the Disney Treasures banner to test whether or not the movie will still cause an uproar among the PC brigade. If the film does well, then Disney may wide-release Song of the South on Blu-Ray. However, there’s no way they want to link this movie to The Princess and the Frog, considering the separate firestorms happening with this movie. As always, interesting times are ahead.
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Comments
May 9, 2008 6:52 PM
Guest :
I'm african american and well I'm excited for this movie. I think its
really cool that they will be having a black princess.Butwow... Wasn't the
'chambermaid' type job in Snow White, Sleeping Beauty, and if I'm right
Cinderella?? Anywho,of that's what they want to do..so be it, I guess. But
personally I don't care if the prince she hooks up with is white. Actually
I hope he's white. That would be cute. It's funny how people kindof
overreact over small things like that. Maddy a slave name?? ha that's
funny, considering its quite a popular name.
Jun 3, 2008 1:09 PM
Guest :
Okay. I'm a white 17 year old who just finnished watching The Hunchback of
Notre Dame. I love Disney movies. I live in a small town down in the south.
I'm live in Louisiana! I'm about 1 and a half hours from New Orleans.
Saying that. That woman below me is right. Cinderella was a chamber maid.
I'm not really sure about Snow White. Its been awhile since I saw that one.
Sleeping Beauty...ehh not so much. But I think this will be a great movie!
Plus. That picture above I'm not sure if she has wings or what it is but
its a a great picture. I say to those calling out about racism must me
racist yourself to notice that kind of things. I didnt even think of it
till it ws pointed out to me! We are living in the year 2008. Unfornetly
racism is still real. I for one think this is a perfect movie. ((Rasict
remark on her getting with a White guy? I THINK ITS GREAT! to show that
African Americans and Caucasion together as one being.))
Jun 4, 2008 5:59 AM
Guest :
As the white mother of a black 5 year old girl, racism aside, I look at the
images from The Frog Princess and I don't get the same sort of magic from
it that I do with other Princesses. What's wrong with a real princess in
an African setting?
Jun 7, 2008 9:03 PM
Guest :
i think this movie will be awasome it's stepping out of the steriotypical
princess into another era that there are not many children would know
about.
plus she has my neice's name and think she shall be very excited to know she is a disney princess Aug 17, 2008 4:34 PM
Guest :
Realy though, why does the prince need to be white? A lot of people
disreard that little fact for various reasons but why can't he be black?
Even in hollywood think about it,how often do you see a black man and woman together and in love with out a whole mess of drama? It is subconsiosly force feeding inter racial relaionships. I sure don't want my daughher excited to grow up thinking her price charming is supposed to be a white man. Sorry, but it's not right. I was excited about the movie until I heard about that little tid bit. Aug 24, 2008 10:34 AM
Guest :
Umm...wow... I'm sorry, but I don't see the big deal. This world tends to
overreact about things like that and label it as racist. I don't get it.
Like a lot of these people said, many white princesses were chambermaids or
whatnot too. It's just the normal disney princess scenario. You know, girl
who has nothing but dreams big, finds her prince, becomes a princess. It's
always annoying when a huge uproar starts just because someone other than
white pops up and people need to desperately find small details to flame
about. I'm sorry flamers, but get a life and actually enjoy something
instead of point fingers. I, for one, would think this is a good movie and
am relieved that they have a 2D movie coming out after so many years. My
little sister will love this too since she is obsessed with Disney
princesses and will be glad to have another one.
Sep 4, 2008 4:27 AM
Guest :
Generally in Disney movies, the prince is of the same ethnic and cultural
background as the princess. Still, with Aladdin, Pocahontas and Hunchback,
the male "Princes" are of a more caucasian (lighter complexion)
than the Princesses. This hasn't gone unnoticed, and the fury and failure
of those last two pictures mentioned should have been lesson enough on the
importance of imagery and what to avoid. Disney has already done the
interracial cast thing with its live version of Cinderella, starring Brandy
Norwood. So while the idea of racial harmony and equality is a nice one and
should be promoted, the first African-American Princes story should not be
the vehicle for that. Come up with a different story altogether to promote
those ideas.
Sep 17, 2008 7:22 PM
Guest :
It seems stupid to me that everyone is obsessing over race. So she's black!
And the big deal is? She's a person, albeit a cartoon person, and race
should not define her.
Sep 19, 2008 4:06 PM
Guest :
I'm really disappointed in anyone whom can view the prospect of this movie
as being anything negative to the AFrican American community. I am African
American and also a Disney cartoon lover! For years I've been wanting a
Disney movie that our young girls can also aspire to. I look at my niece
and how she loves to dress up as a princess, I just wish that some of the
images she is aspiring to be like..looked like her. Too many times people
focus on the negative and over looks the positive. Truth be told,
unfortunately, WE WERE ONCE SLAVES...WE CAN'T CHANGE THAT..But do not be
slaves of the mind. Do not limit yourselves in thinking that we are the
stereotypes people think that we are. And do not believe that a movie can
make us that! I SAY UP WITH THE FROG PRINCESS ASAP.
Chrystal Bethea Columbia SC Sep 21, 2008 12:25 PM
Guest :
White, black, tall, short, fat, thin ... I don't actually care what the
main character or who she falls in love with looks like. As long as it's
well writen, the characters are believable and everything stays true to the
period it is set in.
There is too much focus on the fact she's of african origin... Snow White is German, Belle is French, Maid Marion is English, Mulan is Chinese, Pocahantus is Native American get the point yet? Sep 25, 2008 9:36 AM
Guest :
ok. first off I cant wait to see this movie. Im excited that a black
princess will be joining the crew. The name Tiana is perfect. Maddy would
have been cute too. 1920's new orleans. Maybe they need to do history on
what it was like there in the 1920's. and when i say THEY i mean those who
complain about the movie. "There's also a plantation owner, two
practitioners of voodoo" UMM..hello this is what it was like in the
1920's. whats so wrong about it. Most of the blacks then were light skinned
and/or mixed anyway.Yes Jazz came alive then but not with out the help of
the white people who owned the clubs or liked the music. Lets jus say the
prince is not white. he's Creole. Does that make u feel better? And to the
lady who asked about it being in Africa. Why does it need to be in Africa?
Do you associate all blacks with Africa. Thats racist to me. they should be
able to put a black princess in any setting. There are black folks
everywhere. And to comment on Jennifer Daniels from BET about white folks
writing black stories...ummm how many blacks work in the writing dept at
Disney? How many blacks work for Disney period? It shouldnt matter whose
telling the story as long as its told correctly. Who wrote Remember the
Titans? How about Radio? Polly? didnt hear folks tripping then. Blacks were
not ahead of the game in the 1920's at all. And we're not ahead of the game
now. we will always be one step behind. as stated in earlier comments
pretty much all the Disney princess's were maids of some sort. or poisened.
u also have to consider the fact the girls were young. It wasnt a matter of
them being maids(which seems to also mean slave nowadays). it was more like
them working around the house. doing chores kids should be doing instead of
searching u tube to learn the new soljah boy dance. YUUUAH!! lol Its cool
for them to depict a white person as a maid but not a black person. why?
b/c it hits too close to home? get over it. Blacks are never satisfied.
Give us a movie about rich black folks and people start will shoot it down
b/c thats not the way we were taught black folks lived. ha! Disney u cant
win for losing on this one. btw, i dont this is to promote racial harmony
or equality. they just dont have black princess. simple as that. and they
need one to keep up with the times. Keep up the great work. We jus love how
u send us new scandalous teenagers to talk about each year. And now a Black
Princess. you guys have almost outdone yourselves. Good Luck Disney!
Sep 25, 2008 9:46 PM
Guest :
If people are complaining that the prince is white, isn't that racist? If
children are shown only mono-racial relationships, will they automatically
head for that type of relationship? In other words, Guest #3 (Jun 4, 2008
), I thought your comment was ill thought out and may seem even racist.
Sep 30, 2008 12:25 AM
Guest :
Not too crazy about the story, background, and characters. I much rather it
be based on a traditional fairy tale.
Oct 10, 2008 10:47 PM
Guest :
I think the biggest issue is that a black prince would have been great too!
Not only would a movie of this caliber bode well for the girls, but also
for the boys. I just want the movie done so that my daughters can envision
themselves just like Princess Tiana. Thats whats most important to me. I
wish they had made this movie long ago, so that my daughters would have
someone else to identify with other than Princess Jasmine, which by the way
is almost impossible to find in stores! I am beyond ready for this movie as
so many other mothers and daughters. Thanks for making it!!
Nov 3, 2008 1:10 PM
Guest :
First, as others have said, cinderella was a chamber maid also. And what's
with the tizzy about the voodoo priests? Disney movies almost always have
some type of witch, wizard, or other magical creature that is bad.. at
least there's a good voodoo priest to offset it so you don't have the
implication that it's only bad.
as for the prince.. I agree that maybe he should have been black as well. But I also don't see anything necessarily wrong with showing that interracial relationships are just as valid and loving. Perhaps Disney was trying to make simultaneous points/messages with this movie? I wouldn't call racism though and I really think that's ridiculous. I think some people want to jump at any tiny thing because it makes them feel superior or justifies their anger or hatred. I personally live in the south and I've seen plenty of racism, but never against an african american (not saying it doesn't happen, but some people really want to believe we're straight out of the civil war) The point being that it's insane that Disney is having to defend these invalid attacks. Nov 3, 2008 6:36 PM
Guest :
wow. You think people would be proud of disney for putting more diversity
in the princesses. Apparently not. What's with someting ALWAYS having to
be racist, or someone always not happy baout something. How can a movie
where the main character is a freaking black be racist? Oh, and apparently
bcause blacks were slaves she cant be a chambermaid? Cinderella was one,
omg! a white chamber maid?! racist plz.
I like the white prince idea. Its supporting interracial couples. WOuld you rather it be a black prince showing blacks should be with blacks and whites with whites? I saw some people complaining about her having a big ass and big lips. But if she didnt have those features, wouldnt people complain about her features looking to much of that of a white? Like i said, some people will always be unhappy about things and will always find something to complain about. Nov 11, 2008 7:54 AM
Guest :
What does almost EVERY Disney movie have in common 1) one or both of the
parents are dead, 2) there is always a villein, and 3) the Princess is
always treated like a slave.
Points one and two are so that the audience feels pity for the character, and becomes emotionally attached to it. Which is important for a good movie. Would you feel the same about Cinderella, snow white, sleeping beauty? As for the villain point, they always choose a character in some way connected to the main one. In this case hes a voodoo priest. Whats wrong with that? It adds character to the movie! And as for people complaining about the prince being white. What is wrong with that? You don't think that a black girl should be able to date a white guy? That's kinda' racist. What about all the WHITE girls dating BLACK guys? I don't hear complaints about that! All I have to say is that if your looking that hard to point the racism finger then your more than a little racist yourself! If they have to ruin the movie just to make it the way everyone else wants it, they should just cancel the whole thing! Maybe then these people would shut up. Nov 25, 2008 12:46 PM
Guest :
Some of the authors on this page are talking about race not being an issue,
but one would ask, if Snow White and Cinderella fell in love with a black
man would White America accept it????? Let's be real, there would be major
controversy about that. Also, why does the title have to be the Frog
Princess or the Princess and the Frog or whatever? I mean let's just say
them all together... Snow White, Cinderella, Pocahantas, Sleeping Beauty,
and the Frog Princess????!!!I have a big problem with that. If we're
talking about images in the media, why can't the black princess be an
empress? Instead of a Frog Princess??? What's up with the slave name? Out
of all the names in the planet!!!Just because we're the living product of
our ancestor's struggles does not necessarily mean that we want to glorify
it and then conclude the story with a White Prince. Why does it have to
take place in New Orleans? All of the other fairy tales by Disney are based
off of tales that were told centuries ago. Why not do their research on
African folk tales that have been told in Africa for centuries as well? And
let's not forget about the writers of the movie. Here's an idea...
let's have Black writers!!!! Let's try it!!! OBAMA 08!!!! Yours truly, young black female college students Nov 27, 2008 12:56 AM
Guest :
First, I would like to note my appreciation that Disney is hand-drawing
this movie in keeping with the qualitative product that Disney is known
for. In that regard, my only issue is the fact that the prince is not
black. Every Disney princess movie with exception to Pocahontas, which was
based on historical truths, had a prince with the same racial background.
This movie should not be the exception. "The Princess and the
Frog" should be consistent with the tradtion that has Disney
established. It is important that black females AND males are able to
identify with the main characters in the this movie. I implore Disney to
reconsider the racial profile of the Frog Prince.
Dec 6, 2008 12:12 PM
Guest :
I saw the clip on Sleeping Beauty of the Princess and the Frog and I was
very excited. Finally, a black princess! It's only fitting, and she looked
so beautiful in that blue gown. Having read that the prince is white, my
first thought was "huh? that won't work for the film" but then I
realized it could. I'll love watching the romance unfold as long as they
really do seem to love each other. In real life too, that's what matters.
As for the person who commented about the titles, those ARE the titles of
the stories. Disney didn't pick them. They just changed this one so it
doesn't sound like the princess IS the frog. Consider that Beauty and the
Beast isn't titled Belle, now, is it? Nor is Hunchback of Notredame called
Esmeralda. You can't blame Disney for the title. I am curious about the
New Orleans setting because there is no princess of New Orleans as far as
I've ever heard, so I don't know how that'll work. I would have preferred
a totally new place, like in The Little Mermaid. Still, I'm excited to
know they're doing a new fully animated by cel movie and introducing a new
princess. Oh, and Sleeping Beauty wasn't a maid at all. She was raised as
a peasant, not a servant.
Dec 6, 2008 10:17 PM
Guest :
I am happy to see Disney making another animated movie. And "The Frog
Princess" is based off the CLASSIC FAIRY TALE "The Frog
Prince". I personally dont understand why the title was changed from
prince to princess (i would assume legal issues with ownership of the
title, who knows...its why Roudolph, Mrs. Clause, Frosty the Snow Man, and
Ragity Ann are not in the Christmas parade at Disney...who owns them? idk.
the wont let Disney use them. But I digress.) As for the Prince being
white; yes it could have gone both ways. I even heard rumors that he was of
hispanic decent. There are so many couples today from different ethnic
backgrounds that the idea of it being a problem sickens me. Also, as to
explain the look of the new princess, cartoon animators exagerate a lot of
character traits and looks. Take Stewie Griffen from Family Guy (non
Disney), large eyes, large football shaped head. These traits give help the
identity of the charater. Think of this movie like theatre...the artistic
director can present a vision. I've seen Shakespears Romeo and Juilet
present as a Western. The vision is neither right or wrong, its just that:
a vision of an artistic director. Take the movie as you will, however, dont
call it racist because a white man is writting it. Disney knows how to do
research, Disney has the sources and the money and todays technology to
make sure every detail is right before they sale ANY of its product. People
need to realize that Disney will NEVER be able to satisfy everyone in the
world. Someone always walks out of its parks unsatisfied. Walter E.
Disney's vision was to bring families together and to forget, even for just
a moment, the crazy world that we live in. To bring the child at heart out
of each and every one who watches a movie, goes to the park, or plays with
disney toy. No where in that vision did it say to envoke racism or hatred.
Disney is known for its Diversity. Its one of the things that it thrives
on..."drawing creativity through diversity". By now, im just
rambling on. People just need to leave it alone. If you dont want to see
the movie, dont. But dont call it a racist work because of the movie's
production background. K thanks.
Dec 9, 2008 11:59 AM
Guest :
Well i mean it took long enough! I mean we have an Arabic princess, a red
head and everyone else. I'm just super excited to see Disney finally made a
princess that fits the skin color of all little girls! Who cares about the
name I didn't know names meant you were a slave. I'm black and I must have
missed that one.
Dec 9, 2008 10:27 PM
Guest :
As a young african american women who grew up on Walt Disney movies, I
think the concept of introducing an African AMerican princess is great. My
parents have over the past few years, increasingly, have complained about
the fact that the young children watching Disney films were not being
educated in the many different cultures, due to the fact that the majority
of their films are with either a Caucasian or of a lighter skin tone
character profile. I, for one am looking forward to this film. I am
prepared to read and here many people's thoughts on the matter due to the
apparent "controversy" of all the details in this movie. Im going
to just enjoy it for what it is...a child's film, not with all those hidden
meanings and other negative Connotations. Im just looking forward to it,
and intend to be the oldest person in the theatre without a child for an
excuse!...
Dec 17, 2008 10:30 AM
Guest :
Wow..just...wow. I didn't even think of racsim until it was pointed out. I
already like the character, especially in her 'formal gown'. It's cute.
I think it's a great idea that there is a possibility of mixed racial relationships going on...the world needs to see more of that....but why people are making a big hoopla because white people are creating it is almost sickening. I think that those haters are just vomitting insults because they are jealous whether the information above is fully true or not. Dec 21, 2008 2:45 PM
Guest :
Good grief.
Dec 28, 2008 5:50 PM
Guest :
i am a black female. i grew up with the video song of the south and
memorized all the lyrics and movements. i do not find it racially
offensive and can't wait to take my children to see both movies!!! yeah
for disney!!!
Dec 31, 2008 4:31 PM
Guest :
I too am an African-American who grew up loving Disney films. Jungle Book,
Lion King, Mulan, Aladdin: I loved them all. I was even excited about the
first black princess... until I found out the prince was white. My
frustration stems from the many frustrations that I have had with the
historical inaccuracy of Disney films. Pocahontas as an 18? year old
involved romantically with a 20ish John Smith? Tiana with her white prince
in Southern 1920s New Orleans? DISNEY! There is no feasible happily ever
after to that story. If they want to make a story that shows interracial
love, they'll need to pick a more modern time period.
Jan 7, 2009 11:39 PM
Guest :
i am sub-Sahara African and i just think Disney should have done research
on African stories and not turn an European story into an African stories.
But the frog princess is still okay,but they should have used an originally
African story.
Jan 8, 2009 10:50 AM
Guest :
Well you will have to admit that i will give Disney the credit of making
this movie. Being a black animator I think its really cool idea. But they
are something that i think worries me and the fact that they don't have any
black people writing the script. So the negative things whites hold about
black people will come out in full force. Think about the other white
movies where black people are portrayed all or mostly stereotypes. I will
have to say the only animation that i've seen where black people are
portrayed negatively is in Japanese animation (which is not true for all.
They have stereotypes too. which are the same as white people so its like
exported racism)and one french animation which was done the best(but was
written by a white guy-thanks god he wasn't ignorant). As for someone
saying that there were no African princess. There were African royalty. Go
read some history books. And not the school book text.
Jan 8, 2009 10:59 AM
Guest :
Well you will have to admit that i will give Disney the credit of making
this movie. Being a black animator I think its really cool idea. But they
are something that i think worries me and the fact that they don't have any
black people writing the script. So the negative things whites hold about
black people will come out in full force. Think about the other white
movies where black people are portrayed all or mostly stereotypes. I will
have to say the only animation that i've seen where black people are
portrayed negatively is in Japanese animation (which is not true for all.
They have stereotypes too. which are the same as white people so its like
exported racism)and one french animation which was done the best(but was
written by a white guy-thanks god he wasn't ignorant). As for someone
saying that there were no African princess. There were African royalty. Go
read some history books. And not the school book text.
Jan 9, 2009 10:28 AM
Guest :
I think this is a great idea. My neighbor is a white family who adopted an
African American girl. On day she said to her mom "I want to be white,
because all of the Disney Princesses are white." If anything is wrong,
its that. This movie will show kids that black is beautiful too, and any
little can be a princess, no matter what the color of their skin is. That's
what really matters.
Jan 10, 2009 11:14 PM
Guest :
I am excited about this movie.African Americans were slaved by other aa's
before and sold to white people in the NORTH and then brought to the
south.The north were jealous because of the farms in the south and there
success. i dont know why that is confusing.there's no reason to get mad at
the movie song of the south, it was only a product of that time.I am from
the south, and my family never owned slaves, because they were poor!I love
disney movies.I hope that they get this one situated out because I would
love to see it.I think that racism will always live and every race has been
enslaved atleast once in history.:{
Jan 11, 2009 9:11 PM
Guest :
WOW! An African American in a HARMFUL environment? It MUST be racism, I
mean it's not like it's a movie with an actual plot line which requires
drama like every other Disney movie. Oh, wait, yes it is. Seriously if
something is about an African American and has any negativity based on it
it is quickly labeled off as racism. And to all those bloggers, it's not
like you haven't seen the movie and at the time probably any movie footage
or official Disney information. Oh wait, I guess you hadn't. It seems large
parts of any group of people who haven't been treated fairly can say anyone
who "oppresses" them-meaning people who say they are wrong or are
too defensive-is racist or sexist, but really a lot of the time they are
being treated more fairly than the group they claim oppresses them. I mean
in the media-such as tv-men are almost always stereotyped as the idiots who
treat their wifes as homemakers who can't do anything else and the wifes
are always the smarter people. Of course men are still always labeled as
feminist idiots when the people who are claiming to be oppressed are
oppressing men. You could take what I just said and write it off as being
sexist, for example, but it was not. Anyways I'm just happy they are
bringing back cel animation.
Jan 14, 2009 11:15 PM
Guest :
omg everybody shut the * up. black this (oops i mean african american) and
white this. make the stupid movie. and people need to get over their
inferiority complexes and stop finding everything to copmlain about. what
they dont understand is when they constantly point out things that are
racist they're addressing that they are offended (and one is only offended
when they feel inferior) if we start ignoring the crap about a white prince
offending you or a name like maddy offending you then racism will go away
cause if you're not offending someone how can it be racist!!!!!!! some
minorites dont understand they perpetuate racism themselves because they
just have these inferiority ccomplexes and are ashamed of their past. get
over .. you were all slaves once .it happened. there were black vodoo
priest and chamber maids that were black. IT HAPPENED
Jan 21, 2009 8:13 AM
Guest :
The person below me makes a good point, many of the other Disney princesses
had to overcome obstacles or were in harsh situtations- for example
Cinderella, Snow White, Belle, Mulan. I'm really excited about the movie
and I'm interested to see how it turns out. I'm also of african american
descent and I feel that sometimes our people can be overly sensitive and
sometimes contraversial. I'm sure that if the movie took place in Africa
thst someone would complain about it too. Besides Black American history is
not going to change, its in the past, tastefully doing a movie that relate
to what we have gone through is a bad thing, in my opinion, I mean children
learn about it in school anyways. I am sure that when kids watch the movie
they'll think about how hard a life it was for that character in that
certain situation, not that it's racist and degrades all Blacks by
portraying what their lives once were like in American. If Disney wanted to
they could make the movie anyway they wanted, it is one of their rights.Is
there some unknown National Board of Black Review that must approve of
everthing before it is produced?If Tyler Perry were making this movie would
he be getting the same criticism?
Jan 23, 2009 11:31 AM
Guest :
Lawd! so much ado about nothing! I am a 65 year old African American
Grandmother of 7 girls and 4 daughters, we are all excited about this new
movie. If we learned anything recently is that "anything is
possible" I have been waiting for these days to be upon us, so lets
enjoy them. Please let Disney do what they do best....ENTERTAIN us!
I took my grands to Disneyworld's MGM Studios when they had the Hercules parade and when yjey saw the float with the Muses their faces lit up, they were so happy to see someone who looked like them. Thanks for that day Disney. Looking forward to this movie! Grandma in Orlando Jan 25, 2009 4:19 AM
Guest :
Oops! I apologize for the typos in my previous comments.
Thanks, Grandma from Orlando Jan 27, 2009 5:41 PM
Guest :
i am very excited to see disney finally going back to traditioal 2d
animation...ijust got done watching hercules, i guess people could say that
movie was racist to greeks? but no one did...whats the big deal with this
story? i think people are getting worked up over racism, and the movie
hasnt even come out yet!lol...i hope they dont pressure disney to halt
production.
Feb 1, 2009 10:12 PM
Guest :
I'm really looking forward to seeing this movie and having a new and
different Disney Princess! I hop that the story can survive all the
criticism anwithout being sanitized into something completely plotless and
boring.
Of course, it is important to be sensitive to the feelings of others, but obviously you can't please everyone and you can't avoid offending everyone. It's like that old fable about the man, boy, and the donkey going to town, when every passerby had a different suggestion about who should ride the donkey, and in the end the donkey drowns because the man and boy listen to everyone's complaints without using their common sense. I am so excited and intrigued to see a black disney princess, and I hop that she gets to the big screen with her plot intact! If everyone and their brother gets their hands in the broth, either the story will end up being lost completely, or Disney will never be able to make this movie at all. Or they could change her to white and not have to worry about offending anyone... but what fun would that be? And how would we get our beautiful, black, disney princess? Kudos for them using a mixed-race couple! Being from a military family, I know a lot of mixed race couples and children, and they still get funny looks from some people. Someday it will be considered normal! Feb 18, 2009 12:15 PM
Guest :
It's about time they bring Song of the South out.
Feb 18, 2009 5:20 PM
Guest :
For Disney first black princes I feel they should keep the princes and the
prince and most of the people African-American and keep it with the same
elegance that the other princes have. Tiana is a beautiful name. Then if
they want to do an interracial movie that would be fine but if this is
suppose to be for African- American to finally have there princes it should
be done right. And here gown should be a lot more beautiful with some
colors that match are culture.
Feb 19, 2009 8:08 AM
Guest :
I'm excited for cell animation. I'm excited for Tiana. I'm excited to
have a new romance to follow, and until I see the movie, I don't really
have comments about it.
One thing I will say though. I don't have a problem with her dress. That's what kids think princesses look like, that's what they wear when they dress up, and in America, a big poofy dress is the ulitmate in romance. Feb 19, 2009 8:34 PM
Guest :
I see I am a year late overall with finding this great article. I am a
twenty three year old black female, and oddly enough in May of this year
{2009} I am marrying the love of my life who happens to be a white male!
We Live up north and sadly enough even today we have experienced racism
here. I am completely overyjoyed that Disney is finally doing this. And
to address the other comments before me: Especially at this point in the
world, do you still believe that blacks immediately equal Africa? Brown
skin can be found all over this planet. For those who believe the prince
should be black need to remember that during the time of slavery, slave
owners did in fact have children with some of the slaves they owned. The
name doesn't matter, the story doesn't matter, and the race doesn't matter.
The fact that Disney finally decided to do this is absolutely wonderful.
As far as the comments about race, how many of you were this ruffled about
Pocahontas? That girl was how old when she met John Smith? Had this been
a film by Tyler Perry, would you react the same way? What about if you
read this in a Zane book? Please get the bigger picture everyone. God
made us in HIS image. We are all the same. People sadden me. I can only
imagine what kind of uproar Disney well get if they do a Hispanic Princess
or a Princess in a wheelchair.
Feb 27, 2009 2:46 AM
Guest :
To the last poster on Feb 19 2009 who is marrying a white male:
"We are created in God image" is man made lines so lets stick with facts not poetry. Why can't Disney experiment and show a black/white interracial cartoon in WHITE princess movie? A nice blond white princess who meets a nice DARK handsome black prince? Why push an agenda(which it is, disney always been more than just simple "cartoons") in the first black disney cartoon? Why break the formula for this movie(Pocahontas was losley based on real events)? Whats so horrible about a Black Prince saving(or being slaved) by a princess and show black love in a black(written by whites) story? Plot of the movie: White prince save black women from evil black man. Sorry for ruining the story. I like the New Orleans concept, I like that he princess is dark skin, and I don't even have a problem with the evil black voodoo villain/antagonist. Mar 1, 2009 4:30 PM
Suitepuma :
I would just like to say that first off, I am SO excited that Disney has
decided to do a classical 2-D theater animation again! I also happen to be
a 21 year Black female and I am so happy that they decided to include a
Black princess in their classical collection because I know they didn't
have to.
Now, as for the controversy... this is a tricky topic for several reasons... 1)It seems as if Disney originally wanted to stick with the same ol' formula (chambermaid, oppressed Princess, saved by Prince). We are living in a new feminist age where we like to see a semi-independent smart heroine and expect nothing less for our children. The fact that they are making the story around a specific early American era About an African Americans doubles their task (I agree with everyone else who said they should have imitated an African folktale, at least they would have been consistent as far as making a foreign-derived fairytale) What Black parent will want to take their child to a CARTOON movie and have them reminded about a terrible time in American history? Yes, it happened but that doesn't mean we want to constantly be reminded of that part (its only a part) of our history. 2) We ARE living in a new age BUT if everyone's argument seems to be that Disney wants to stay consistent with their fairy-tales then why change the formula when it comes to the race of the prince? I mean think about it... Hey, I am all for interracial relationships it just seems like they are doing too much. Like someone else said, why not make the first interracial relationship between one of the White princesses? That would make more sense IMO. It may not be their agenda, but they are making it seem as if White people can not handle seeing a story with all Black characters unless there is a White person involved, which I know is not true (please someone, tell me I'm right). 3)I hear the writers are White... Im not sure about this, I'm sure the writers will be great but i HOPE to death they consult with their Black counterparts throughout the production. Seriously, controversy aside, this movie is gonna be great! I just know it, not Perfect, but definitely Disney standards. Looking at the snapshots of the movie the imagery is AMAZING! My inner child is waiting so anxiously for the premiere of this movie, I'm sure im going to cry when i see it for sure! Mar 3, 2009 1:35 PM
Guest :
Stupid people will always find a way to turn a movie (especially Disney)
into something to complain about. The fact is, it's our history they are
representing in the movie, it will be charming and loved by all children
and will probably have great music. Stop trying to turn it into racism, if
you think something is derrogatory during the film, explain to your young
child (Who will not pick up on it until YOU pass on this knowledge) that it
is the way things USED to be and may not be at this time. Just like in
every other Princess movie, there's some history of the time period being
represented! Get your heads out of your a** people and STOP trying to make
everything racist!
Mar 4, 2009 9:54 AM
Guest :
This is why I hate the internet!! I hate the idea that things are assumed
to be "know" prior to the release of ANYTHING!! I raise my hat
to those who comment that they are looking forward to this movie... I am a
20 something white girls who is also looking forward to this movie.
Different reasons I am sure the no. one being it is not digital!!!
For all those who want to complain and leave negative comments... DONT WATCH IT THEN!! You can not go by what the media is telling you. Unless you are working on the project, shut your traps and wait till the movie comes out. No one knows the story or back ground unless they are working on the project. Get off your high horse and be glad to have another disney princess your daughters can fixate on. Mar 9, 2009 5:59 PM
Guest :
Yeah yeah, I can see someone getting all upset because "white
folks" wrote about "black foks".. whatever... but face it,
nobody would be saying anything if "black folks" wrote it. Its a
story, stop overlooking something nice. I'm sick of everything put out
being deamed "racist". Find something else to do, really.
By the way, theres no big deal about the prince being white. Everyone complaining about it just looks ridiculous. You all wanted "equality" but, how dare someone make a black and white couple in a Disney movie? To put it quite literally - I'm annoyed with different ethnicities getting so damn offended over every little thing. Grow up. Mar 10, 2009 9:30 AM
Guest :
you know i just don't understand the big deal. You cant make everyone happy
but honestly? i think the people who are making such a big deal over racism
and having a white prince are the racist ones. So, would you be angry if
your son or daughter came home with someone outside their race? are you
saying this is what we need to teach our children that its wrong to love
someone whose different? True, so she's a chambermaid, LIKE ALL THE OTHER
PRINCESSES! get over yourselves and this stupid race issue, you cant
possibly move forward if you're living in the past. And if you are teaching
your children to hate on people different from them because in the past the
same happened to your ancestors then you will in turn make them into the
people you so despise. I see it everyday with some of the kids i work with
and its so sad to me to see them treat a little white child with disdain.
It's Disney, it's magical and its about overcoming your trials and
tribulations and come out on top. If you have a problem with it don't watch
it, but stop taking something simple and fun and twist it into something
ugly and racist. those kind of people make me sick, just bring out the
cartoon and stop all this negativity!!!!
Mar 10, 2009 3:07 PM
Guest :
Just two things:
1.) Yes, Snow White and Cinderella did 'maid's' jobs, but they more or less owned the places they were forced to clean! Thier birthright was stolen from them by jealous stepmothers, and reinstated when they found love. Tiana is a true servant of the household, unless Disney threw something in there about her background being 'murky but "royal"'. We'll see.. 2.) Esmeralda was the very dark-skinned heroine in 'Hunchback', yet I don't see her on any of the Princess merchandise! True, she was not royalty, nor was she paired with royalty. But neither Cinderella nor Belle was of royal birth, nor was Mulan or her beau. Pocahontas was a true princess, yet I rarely see her ethnically-sharp features on the the backpacks, the bed sets, party merchandise, etc. You could argue Jasmine but, seriously, her features are more akin to a genetically-Jewish female with a light tan. I really hope Disney starts to include ALL the lovely heroines in their marketing strategy, although I know full well that will simply drive up the price of the "original" princess merch to astronomical sums. The Ladye Catte Mar 16, 2009 10:58 AM
Guest :
I have been watching and waiting for all the latest news about OUR newest
Disney princess moview for some time now and am VERY excited. I am a black
mother of a black 3 and 1/2 year old princess and will be the first in line
at premiere in our local theater in Kentucky with all of my multiracial
friends and their children. With that being said, let me give my opinion
about all of this "much ado about nothing": I have never been
happier to see Disney take on creating a black princess and firmly believe
Jazz Age New Orleans is the perfect backdrop for this story. Yes, Disney
is going to attempt to create a story that is PC, but their main goal is to
make a quality product that will make them MONEY!!!!
I am proud that Disney is making this movie and Tiana has an ethnic name, ethnic hair, and a pretty princess dress. From the eyes of a preschooler who is obsessed with all thing princess, I am happy she will have a movie that I will buy that has a princess that looks like her, with a magical story of love, strength, and dreams coming true. If that makes me sound anti-feminist, then sobeit. I want my child to enjoy her childhood while it lasts and worry about being PC later. I grew up on Disney (my first movie was Snow White at age 5) and my daughter and I watch the old and new Disney princess movies together. The days she saw Ariel on stage, Belle gave her a kiss on the cheek, and she paraded around MGM studios ALL DAY in her Cinderella dress being called "a beautiful princess" at Disney World, brought joy to my heart because she was living her fairy tale. The Princess and the Frog could only add to her magic. Let us not take that away from our daughters, please. Mar 17, 2009 2:36 AM
Guest :
Has anyone ever tried contacting Disney with their thoughts or comments?
there certainly doens't seem any easy way to do that. It really irks me. I
mean do they not care about their public? how do you let them know your
thoughts, ideas, suggestions, complaints? Don't they want people's input. I
would think so. Because...
For years I have thought that Disney has neglected a few things and wanted to share that with them: 1)2D animation 2)retelling stories 3)the continent of Africa and Africans. Correct me if I'm wrong but it occured to me that there wasn't any black heros or heroines in Disney animation! When this occured to me I was quite shocked. I thought okay, they've done Native Americans, the Middle-East, China, the Emperor's new groove was in South America, Jungle book for India. And then I realized oh, there are some African movies, but not one African person in them: Lion King, Tarzan. This really surprised and bothered me. It almost seemed they were avoiding it purposely (just in case your wondering, I'm white). I thought, Disney really has an opportunity to play a part in uniting the world and creating interest in different cultures and peoples and exposing children to stories from all over the world. All countries and continents probably have their tales and fairy tales. When I thought of Africa I thought there couldn't be a more perfect mine of material to create an awesome animated film, with an African Princess, for example who against all odds does great things for her land and people, or something. Africa is a land full of stories and storytellers. So while I was very excited when I saw that Disney was returning to 2D, doing a classic tale, and even having a black heroine (in essence exactly what I hoped they would do!) I must say I would have preferred the tale to be an African tale set in AFrica with an African prince. I think its a bit odd that the prince is going to be white. Just because he could be black. The white prince thing has been done and redone, why not something new, and it makes perfect sense. I'm not in any way against interracial relations, but nor am I against same race ones! My son also enjoys these movies and likes to pretend to be princes, so why not also have a black hero to go with the black heroine. Anyway, I think Disney's future should involve continuing with 2D and retelling tales from all over the world. I think they would have ideas to last a long time. Mar 23, 2009 12:18 PM
Guest :
Im a 16 year old black girl with a white boyfriend. I don't see a reason
for Disney choosing a black guy instead of a white one. There are plenty of
interracial couples (me for example) who has been waiting to see a movie
like this to come since "Something new", which isn't a cartoon
but you get the point. I like the idea of mixing two people from didn't
backgrounds together. I can't wait to see a kiss from those two. Though I
wish that the Prince was a bit cuter though...I guess you can't have it
all.
Mar 26, 2009 9:31 AM
Guest :
Well Disney is a white company with white people running it, how are they
supposed to discern what might be considered insulting to another race. I
think that the problem arises from the era that the story is placed not the
interracial aspect. For those of you who are ignorant to the time; look up
Black Wall Street, Scottsborough Boys, Lynchings, Emitt Till and others. To
pretend that America was or is a race friendly place is to ask too much of
your audience. My wife's grandfather was killed by the Klan her grandmother
was then run off of their property by the same. These things happened they
weren't the products of someone's imagination. To pretend that things were
that good between the races dishonors the lives of all of those that were
lost.
Why couldn't they have done a story about a Tuskgee Airman? Or about Ancient Egypt? Hannibal? Piye or Taharqa both of whom were Nubian Kings of Egypt? Africa had centuries of trade with the east before the European arrived, there was the universities of Timbuktu and a wealth of folklore that could have been harnessed. Moses and his wife were Africans. So why is it so hard for a company as talented as Disney's to actually use the material I listed above? Box Office returns. If there are two African leads the cartoon like many movies is labled a 'black' movie, so there is the introduction of the white male hero. He is actually there to save Disney's investment in the project. For your lack in faith of the American audience and your inability to respect the aspects of American History I will have to pass on the Frog Princess. Apr 8, 2009 1:45 PM
Guest :
Below is a casting call for the Imagination Movers and it brings to mind
the agenda of Disney and subsequently the participation of every member of
the Mover's production in a racially bias agenda.
-------------------- Imagination Movers wants you to work with us on Thursday April 9th in New Orleans. This is a paid job ($118 per day). If you fit the description below and want to work on the television series Imagination Movers please email Pepper at P***********@*****com (YOU MUST INCLUDE A PICTURE AND YOUR AVAILABILITY). If you dont fit the descriptions listed below but you know someone who does please forward this information to them so they can work on this fun project. Please reply asap. Thank you and I look forward to working with you soon. CHARACTER BREAKDOWN: ONE ETHNIC MALE (AFRICAN AMERICAN/HISPANIC/ASIAN/LATINO, ETC) ANY AGE BUT YOU MUST BE ABLE TO HAM IT UP ON FILM (BE REALLY SILLY/CHUCKLE, ETC) ONE ETHNIC WOMAN (AFRICAN AMERICAN/HISPANIC/ASIAN/LATINO, ETC) ANY AGE BUT YOU MUST BE ABLE TO HAM IT UP ON FILM (BE REALLY SILLY/CHUCKLE, ETC) ONE ETHNIC BABY AND THE BABIES MOTHER (AFRICAN AMERICAN/HISPANIC/ASIAN/LATINO, ETC) THE BABY NEEDS TO BE 12 MONTHS OLD OR YOUNGER AND CAN BE ANY GENDER. THE MOTHER CAN BE ANY AGE. Again, if you meet the description of a character listed above please email a picture and your interest/availability to Pepper ar P***********@*****com. PLEASE DO THIS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. THANK YOU. Pepper ----------------------- They are obviously trying to promote racial harmony by representing minorities in their shows however their methods show the true governing attitude behind it. They are offering employment to any man, woman or child to the exclusion of one racial type. This makes one wonder how 'ethnic' looking a person has to be. Can they be mixed or of some eastern European descent so long as they don't appear to be too anglo? Would a Swede or Ukrainian do as well as an Inuit or Colombian? Why are they lumping all non-caucasians together and adopting the attitude that one is basically the same as the other? There it is. Apr 12, 2009 9:16 PM
Guest :
Chichi:
It seems that a lot of people don't understand what the uproar is about with this movie. Quite a number of you are stating that race shouldn't be important, and why should it matter if the prince is white or non black--it's all about being equal and harmonious right? In fact you believe the people that are complaining about a white prince are the real racists, because they wouldn't complain in the first place. Wrong. Race is important.Why is it that down the line of the Disney princesses (excluding Pocohontas) that their costars or counterparts were of the same race? Why all of a sudden when it comes to the black princess that Disney wants to change it up? It would makes sense to follow the Disney formula or blue print. I tell you why they changed the scheme of things because Disney wanted to send a message. You know what that message is? It is not practical for a black woman and black man relationship to exist. It is not the norm; therefore, a black woman would have to look elsewhere for love for her prince. In addition it is also saying that a black man could never be a prince or atleast a prince to a black woman. Yes we love interracial relationships, but why is it that the first black princess has to compromise herself to find love. It would make more sense for a white princess to have an interracial relationship first since we've already seen her have her white prince. Yes I am glad that Disney thought to have a black princess, but I am certainly not thankful. If they're going to have a black princess they should present it in the right way. Also just like how I want my daughter to be able to identify with a princess, I want the same for my son. You mean to tell me that as a young black man that he can't have someone to identify with and that he can't be a prince. Mulan didn't have this much controversy because the people that put that project together were knowledgeable about the history, and presented the story in a way that was uplifting to the asian community; however, with this project the people behind it don't seem to have the same vigiliance. From the start there have been many problems as if they just decided to do the movie without doing their homework and it shows.It is very unfortunate because I have grown up watching Disney movies and looked forward to the fruitation of finally having a black princess, but I will not support this movie because of the damaging message that it is sending. There are beautiful black relationships. Apr 13, 2009 11:12 PM
Guest :
HONESTLY PEOPLE!! Can we please calm down about this! I've realized that no
matter what Disney does SOMEONE, SOMEWHERE will find it offensive. First
off, black people complained that there were no black Disney princesses.
Disney FINALLY creates one and she's not good enough. (Big surprise there)
Granted, they started her off as a chambermaid, but did they not change the
story and make her a princess? Give them a little credit, geez. Second,
people complained that she wasn't "black enough." Now what would
everyone have said if they would've created a stereotypical black princess?
A lot more hell would have been raised, that's for sure! Should she speak
in ebonics? My gracious! I've heard several complaints about the little
buck-toothed firefly in the preview. Apparently, that's stereotyping black
people too. If you want to compare yourself or blacks to the character and
how he looks and speaks, that's all you--just like some people think we
came from monkeys. If they want to believe that about themselves, that's
their prerogative. I see no similarities between myself or any of my family
members to a backwoods firefly so I take no offense. And what's the big
deal with the Prince in the story not being black? How many Disney princes
do people actually pay attention to? Do you see little boys running around
in Prince Eric or Aladdin costumes at Halloween? Negative. Pocahontas was
with a John Smith, heck, Belle was with a beast before he changed over! And
does one even know what race Snow White's Knight in Shining Armor was? NO!
All we saw was fair skin, so he must be white. So it all boils down to
race, again and again. PLEASE just enjoy the movie for what it's worth.
You're never going to be satisfied because Disney can't satisfy everyone!
As previously stated, SOMEONE--SOMEWHERE is going to be offended by
something in this movie and you know what? SO FRIKKIN WHAT! GET OVER IT AND
GET SOME THICK SKIN! Better yet, for all those who have such a problem with
this movie, you write the script and draw the prototypes for this so called
"Perfect Black Disney Princess" that just doesn't exist. If
you're not going to take the time and effort, then please for the rest of
us, who are actually excited about the movie, stop the useless complaints
and movie bashing.
Apr 13, 2009 11:13 PM
Guest :
HONESTLY PEOPLE!! Can we please calm down about this! I've realized that no
matter what Disney does SOMEONE, SOMEWHERE will find it offensive. First
off, black people complained that there were no black Disney princesses.
Disney FINALLY creates one and she's not good enough. (Big surprise there)
Granted, they started her off as a chambermaid, but did they not change the
story and make her a princess? Give them a little credit, geez. Second,
people complained that she wasn't "black enough." Now what would
everyone have said if they would've created a stereotypical black princess?
A lot more hell would have been raised, that's for sure! Should she speak
in ebonics? My gracious! I've heard several complaints about the little
buck-toothed firefly in the preview. Apparently, that's stereotyping black
people too. If you want to compare yourself or blacks to the character and
how he looks and speaks, that's all you--just like some people think we
came from monkeys. If they want to believe that about themselves, that's
their prerogative. I see no similarities between myself or any of my family
members to a backwoods firefly so I take no offense. And what's the big
deal with the Prince in the story not being black? How many Disney princes
do people actually pay attention to? Do you see little boys running around
in Prince Eric or Aladdin costumes at Halloween? Negative. Pocahontas was
with a John Smith, heck, Belle was with a beast before he changed over! And
does one even know what race Snow White's Knight in Shining Armor was? NO!
All we saw was fair skin, so he must be white. So it all boils down to
race, again and again. PLEASE just enjoy the movie for what it's worth.
You're never going to be satisfied because Disney can't satisfy everyone!
As previously stated, SOMEONE--SOMEWHERE is going to be offended by
something in this movie and you know what? SO FRIKKIN WHAT! GET OVER IT AND
GET SOME THICK SKIN! Better yet, for all those who have such a problem with
this movie, you write the script and draw the prototypes for this so called
"Perfect Black Disney Princess" that just doesn't exist. If
you're not going to take the time and effort, then please for the rest of
us, who are actually excited about the movie, stop the useless complaints
and movie bashing.
Apr 24, 2009 3:25 PM
Guest :
Please if I want to voice my opinion I can, maybe you should grow thick
skin. It's so obvious why people are upset about this film.
Apr 30, 2009 5:27 PM
Guest :
lol. Of course the Prince HAD to be white.
*rolls eyes* FAIL. May 9, 2009 7:07 PM
Guest :
I am glad there is finally a black princess to add to the collection. I am
happy for my friends little daughters who are white and black 8 and under
who love princess, and am happy that this movie is coming out while they
are young and building positive images of themselves. I can't wait to buy
this for them when it comes out on DVD to add to their home movies, maybe
even go see it with them. I think that this movie in regards to a black
princess and a white prince has some good qualities and bad. I think the
interacial relationship is a positive thing as my friend's kids are white
and black (and for any kid or adult, regardless if you have any relation to
being white or black yourself) But I also do think they should make a
second black princess where the prince is black, as that is a nice image
for boys, and young girls who have both parents black.You can have more
than one black princess, and I think the idea about a black prince and
white princess is good too, especially with modern times like Obama and the
fact that his dad was black and his mom was white. I am glad the story
takes place in the states. I'm not sure, but I think that this would mean
that this is the first American princess? Not sure. Anyways I think it
sounds cool.
May 13, 2009 11:35 AM
Guest :
I don't have any doubt that this movie might get to be a Disney classic
however, I beleive that the story should've taken place where there would
be actual african american princess' like in Africa. I mean,Disney is known
to take classic stories and turn them into great family movies, so why not
take a story from Africa and make it into a movie? Also- i'm probably going
to sound real bitchy or something right now but- when will there be a
hispanic princess? Like one from Spain? I love Disney movies i've been
watching them since I was a little girl! The other princess were all
charming and beautiful and hopefully this princess Tiana will be too. Now
all we need is a beautiful Spaniard princess to complete the circle of
race. Atleast that's what I think. O hope this movie really does well, I
know i'm going to go and see it, it looks interesting and cute.
May 19, 2009 6:53 PM
Guest :
Blow me away with a good story that's on par with classic Disney movies.
Then I'll make a judgement call. Right now, I could care less.
May 29, 2009 6:33 AM
Guest :
I wish you would all just stop defending this movie, because of its lack of
imagination! It's so predictable. A frog shows up claiming to be a prince,
talks the girl into kissing him, and she turns into a frog? Come on. How
many times have we seen that? I also dislike the fact that it is set in a
real life setting, when really the greatest films have been those we've
never seen or heard of before. It just doesn't have the magic when there's
no mystery. A setting in Africa I believe would be breathtaking and would
give them lots of stuff to work with, like the South American setting for
UP which looks awesome. I do admit that the animation does look beautiful
and a singing alligator is beast. I also think it's about time we started
acknowledging african american culture because of how important it us to us
and our world. I want to work for Disney someday, so I try to give it my
full support, but I can't do that when I'm dissapointed, which obviously I
am. Well, good luck, Disney. Even though it looks like a flop, I'll still
show up. Hopefully, they can change my mind, because I'm entirely sceptical
for now. signing off.
Jun 2, 2009 1:11 PM
Guest :
Seriously?! The prince..is a white man? REALLY!!!! So you're saying a black
man can't rescue a black woman? Anyhoot, every one has made some good
points. Kudos to Disney for trying to produce an animated fairy tale with
an African American princess. Where they went wrong... the white prince,
and the voodoo priest. One guest suggested that Disney did more research on
African foklore, I agree. Perhaps reaching out to African American writers
and artists could of help Disney write and produce a more realistic or at
least politcally correct fairy tale. I mean what? the producers did not
think to ask Maya Angelou, Spike Lee, Toni Morrison, Janis Spivey
Gilchrist, Virginia Hamilton? Perhaps if they had a panel with African
American writers and historians, the Princess and The Frog would have been
more "palatable" to the public. Besides, when you think of
Disney's works, all their villians are drawn dark, shadowy and long, and in
their earlier films, it is so obvious when a character is supposed to be
"Black" i.e. the crows in Dumbo. The hyenas in Lion King were SO
STEREOTYPICAL!, however Whoopi Goldberg and Cheech Marin did an excellent
job making you laugh that you forgot about the stereotypes. However I
was'nt to please with Rafiki, once again Robert Guillaum, was excellent.
SOOO...to make a long story short. American Cinema is still a long way from
getting it "right" when it comes to portaying African Americans.
(Pls. excuse any typos ;-) )
Jun 5, 2009 3:44 AM
Guest :
Disney's finally doing a movie with a "black" princess. It might
already be out but with two young children I don't pay much attention to
movies until they're released on DVD. My critisicm isn't concerning the
movie, as I have yet to see it. My complaint revolve around some of what I
have heard other people say about it.
To my amazement Disney isn't only introducing a "black" princess, it is being completely revolutionary and is introducing its first inter-racial relationship! I can not tell you how exciting I thought that was when I found out. However my joy was rapidly squashed when I began to read some of the commentary. And I must say, the negative feed back I read was not the gripes I would have expected. I thought people might go totally haywire because there was a mixing of races. As far as America has come as a nation and as much progress has been made in race relations this issue is still one that is of concern to many Americans. While there are many more inter-racial couples than ever before in my country's history we still have a long way to go as far as mixed marriages are concerned. In high school I knew plenty of young girls, of both races (black and white, I think there were all of four asians in our school, one east indian, and no latinos) who even at the ages of 14-17 felt that white should marry white, and black should marry black. Regardless of how you my friends may think, I hope that you have enough tolerance to be accepting that not everyone feels this way and does not choose to follow the like to like philosophy when searching out a life long companion. To me, people are people, but perhaps I am the misguided product of an inter-racial relationship being the "mulatto" daughter of a black man and a white woman. I proudly continue that misguidedness for this "mulatto" woman has married a white man and given birth to two "quadroon" children. Don't you love those words? Mulatto. Quadroon. There's even the term Octaroon and if either of my daughters marries a white man then that will technically be my grandchildren from that union's "racial" designation! It's amazing how the USA measures "blackness" like it is some sort of taint. But the commentary wasn't slaming inter-racial relationships in the classic sense. Much to my surprise there were many a cry that Disney was doing a huge disservice to the "black" community. Their argument was that Disney was showing that "black" love couldn't work, or that "black" love wasn't important. M Jun 5, 2009 9:59 AM
Guest :
wow. wow. wow. Really, they're calling it racist that white men are writing
a story about black people? Really? Oh my goodness, I am fifteen years old
and I really don't understand why everything is considered racist! I
thought we were past this. No, I don't think it's a good story line and I
don't like the setting, I think Disney has some rethinking to do but I
don't consider it racist. What is wrong with people these days!? Hello,
it's the 21st century! Get over yourselves, I don't care what color you
are!
Jul 10, 2009 10:33 AM
Guest :
For all those blacks complaining, start your own damn movie company. Then
you can make them how you want.
Jul 17, 2009 7:43 AM
Guest :
seriously guys! i love the old disney movies where they would sing songs
and dance around! its just the not the same anymore!! so i'm super excited
to find out they are brinigng this movie out and its going to have the same
old format like before! also i think all of those racist remarks in the
article is way blown out of the water...Maddy they say might sound like a
slave's name but there a white girl name Maddy on the suite life of zack
and cody!! so whats wrong if the prince happens to be white? hes also a
frog! what would happen if the prince was black and a frog..i can't imagine
what everybody would say about that...lets not also forget about the other
races that disney has done..pochaontas..for heaven's sake they called the
john smith and them white savages lol..
i think everybody just need to calm down and enjoy this movie! Jul 18, 2009 7:09 PM
Guest :
A VERY RACIST movie, this is. Why does the princess get turned into an ugly
frog? What, blacks can't aspire to be black, they have to be frogs?
What message is that sending to black girls, to be a frog? Wow. If you white people can't see the racism in this movie, then you're either ignorant or a denier. Jul 24, 2009 1:11 PM
Guest :
This movie is set in New Orleans in the Jazz Age. Tiana speaks like an
average American “black” girl would, and the Prince has a French accent.
Also, if it helps, because of the demographic history of NO, there is no
way to tell whether or not Tiana is even completely African-American, and
the Prince is from an imaginary country called Maldonia. She could be what
was formerly referred to as mulatto (which was on the US Census as a
category until 1930) or any of the possible mixes and derivations of the
various races which have inhabited NO in the history of America- French,
Spanish, English, African, etc. The point is, it does not matter, race or
otherwise. Disney is finally making a movie with a black princess, and the
story line occurs in one of the most African-influenced and culturally
diverse cities in America, New Orleans. Please watch the teaser/trailer to
see what I’m talking about.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmlZhrmMAhc&annotation_id=annotation_7 28147&feature=iv Also, note that Disney went to great lengths to make sure the film would not be viewed as racially insensitive in any way. Tiana’s name was changed from the original Maddy and her job was changed from a maid to a waitress, among other things. Please try to remain open minded. This will be a beautiful movie and Disney deserves credit where credit is due. Jul 26, 2009 10:09 PM
Guest :
2 the people who think this is a raceist movie or say it looks down on the
black community 1st of all how much do u know about it ive heard that the
prince is black and that alot of things have been changed since they 1st
realised the news, oh and 2 the person above me who commented july 18 how
is a person supposed 2 aspire 2 b a frog seriosly!its not like the
characters willingly wanted 2 b a frog and i think the idea is verry cute
and unique and would b a great comback 4 disney. so watch the movie b4 u
complain about all this stupid crap just c what its like.ohh and find a
more important cause 2 complain about its a childrens movie comeon.
Jul 29, 2009 7:27 AM
Guest :
I am a african american 19 yr old women. Many of my friends would describe
me as a disney freak. I love the classic disney movies and still cry when I
see them. I am very excited to see the movie with a african american
princess but I would have perferred her to be with a african american
prince. All disney princesses except pocahontas (which was based on history
( she isnt really even considered a princess she is never advertised with
the other princesses)) fell in love with the same ancestry. Why cant Tiana?
It is hard to find a happy african american couple on tv, Tiana and a
african american prince would have been a good example. I think that it
would have been better to use African stories (folktales) to introduce an
african acestry princess. Overall I am still a Disney freak and I cant wait
till the movie but I really hopes Disney makes the prince african
american
Aug 4, 2009 6:27 AM
Guest :
Tiana turns into a frog, Mulan cross dresses, and Pocahantus
"betrays" her tribe to save the man she loves and Snow White eats
and apple and for all intents and purposes snuffs it.
Mulan is made to feel like her only purpose in life is to marry failing that she's something the should be swept under the family carpet, Cinderella is a maid for her Evil stepsisters who abuse and wreck all her attempts at self improvement and Snow White is fed a poison by a jealous aunt. Really, I don't see how becomming a frog is all that bad. Every princess has some unpleasant situation to deal with. And each is unique and frankly if she didn't turn into a frog it would amount to girl finds frog, kisses frog, marries prince end of story. Not great viewing even by kid standards. And if that's still not enough for you, you have to remember that it was the "white prince" who was turned into a frog and her transformation was an accident there was no real malice made directly towards her. Races are varied, it's a fact of life, if you want to be equal stop demanding special treatment. Aug 15, 2009 10:09 AM
Guest :
Okay, so after I read the following, I found my self quite disappointed in
my own kind. Yes, i'm African- American. In saying that, I think as an
African-American in this day and age, we like to throw the 'racist' card
around a little too much. Yes, racism still exists and it will continue to
exist as long as we have different races, but in my opinion, i think this
was a great change for Disney. The funny part is, for years
African-Americans have been wanting an African-American princess and now
that they have given us one, we complain. Why can't we be happy about it. I
know I am... I love Disney, and will continue to support them, weather the
princess' are black or white. And the prince being white. What does it
matter. Love knows no color. They say why does he have to be white? The
bigger question is Why does he have to be black?" The fact is, he
doesn't. He only needs two eyes, a nose, one mouth, two ears... you get my
point. You are free the see the movie or not. It's up to you but I know i
will, and most likely enjoy it.
Aug 25, 2009 1:42 PM
Guest :
okay people....do you honestly think that when little girls, white or
black, watch this movie that they are thinking about the setting, colour of
skin, historically correct information or interracial relationships?
Disney Princess movies are about the Princess, her beauty and the love she
eventually has for the Prince, not the details that I hear people talking
about. I have a 7 year old daughter and not once has she ever said to me
during a Disney Princess movie "Mommy, is that historically
correct?".
Once again, Disney tries to put out a movie of fun and little girl fatasy and people have to find something wrong with it. I would love to be a fly on the wall when little black girls in America want to see this movie and they are told "no" because it's not politically or historically correct....or are you going to be a Hypocrite and let them see it and complain about it silently? Whatever, some people have nothing better to do with their lives than spoil waht fantasy is left out there, get over yourselves and see it for what it is.....a fairy tale made for little girls who want to dress up like a princess and feel good about it! Aug 29, 2009 6:23 PM
Guest :
THERE WAS A PRINCE of colour
like hello remember bueaty and the beast like duhhh. I love that film! x Aug 29, 2009 6:25 PM
Guest :
im a black british girl
i can't wait for the film. i think it's wonderful. Well done Disey :D me and my sister can't wait to see it and that prince sure does look handsome:P Aug 30, 2009 8:49 PM
Guest :
I'm a 17 year old Jamaican-American girl (yes I'm 'black'). I think that
the people who are crying out racism, are racist themselves (yes even if
the people shouting are black). Also I bet if the princess was white,
people would complain that Disney didn't come out with a black princess so
it's not "to-little-to-late". One more thing I believe the only
way to get over racism is to forget about it completely. As for the prince
being white, soooooooo what, I like boys of every race (hey cute is cute
and sexy is sexy, no matter what the race).
Sep 18, 2009 7:38 PM
Guest :
Okay, first of all, I'm thirteen, and I am really excited to see this
movie! And I think its great that they're making an African American
princes. I mean I haven't even seen a Disney Princess who wasn't white
since Princess Jasmine in "Alladin". I also love the idea of the
movie being set in 1920's Louisiana, I think that's a great twist on a
classic fairy-tale. And I don't get the big commotion about the white
prince, I think the fact that there's and interracial couple is great. I
think it's great that there's a Disney movie that shows us two people of
different heritage backgrounds fall in love. I think that's a great example
to show the kids that love really has no specific color. I have no doubt
that this will be one of the greatest Disney movies. Can't wait till it's
in theaters!
Sep 23, 2009 8:52 AM
Guest :
I am a black woman with four daughters and two granddaughters.i have been
waitng since i was a little girl to hold a black princess doll in my hand.i
cant wait for this movie to come out.i remember one holloween my daughter
was bell and she was told by another little girl in class that bell was not
black.i new this would happen but i brought the costume anyway.now my
granddaughters can dress like the frog princess.
Sep 25, 2009 7:45 PM
Guest :
did anybody read the article? how about doing some more research. disney
would never make a movie that demeans african americans. the previews that
i have seen for the movie have not shown anything demeaning. the whole
chamber maid thing was probably just a rumor that started spreading and
people completely blew it out of proportion. i personally think it's dumb
to get so uptight about something like this. its just a movie and its not
like its going to hurt anybody. there are worse problems out there than a
dumb disney movie. get a grip people.
Sep 25, 2009 9:12 PM
Guest :
This is, by far, the most ridiculous article I have ever read. First
of all, when I was a little girl I never thought about race even being a factor. Kids don't pay attention to those things. We start recognizing these things only when adults point them out to us. Racism is a learned trait, not something we are instictively born with. And after thinking back to the Disney movies I have seen if we really want to break it down into ethnicity, my all time favorite princess was Jasmine. She was Arabian. She married an Arabian. So lets go through the disney princesses shall we? 1. Ariel~ Does a mermaid even have an ethnicity??? She lives underwater. (The Little Mermaid) 2. Jasmine~ Arabian princess. Marries an Arabian peasant... (Aladdin) 3. Belle~ French, falls in love with a beast, who then changes to a prince. (The Beauty and the Beast) 4. Snow White~ Unclear. Servant to the house. I would assume some sort of European decent. Marries a prince. (Snow White) 5. Cinderella~ I think it's safe to say she is English. Also a servant of the house. A maid. Marries a prince. (Cinderella) 6. Mulan~ Chinese. And a woman, who had little rights in this culture. She marries a warrior. Who is also Chinese. Earns honor for her family. (Mulan) 7. Pocahontus~Native American. Falls in love with a white man. Breaks the barrier between her people and the white man. (Pocahontus) 8.Esmeralda~ Probably of some sort of Romanian descent. She too, falls in love with a French guard. Also treats Quasimodo with respect and equality. I think if you look at the broad scheme of things Disney touches on the most important topic of all. Love is blind. It comes in all different shapes and sizes, classes and rankings in society. They show that you can defy the limits that others put on you and love is worth fighting for. So what does it matter the race of the prince?? Are we against inter-racial relationships? I think it is important for kids to get the message that it doesn't matter what color of skin a person has, but what is inside that really matters. I sincerely hope that kids of all races and classes go to see this movie regardless of something as trivial as this. Because the real message is with love, all is possible. Oct 1, 2009 5:23 PM
Guest :
The outcry to this movie is ridiculous.
Yeah. I'm white. yeah, I can see how someone could interpret some of the things in this movie as racist. But really? It's a CARTOON. Are people really so stupid that they have to cry and shout racism over THIS? God dammit people. I understand that racism is still alive and well. I really do. I have to hear it all the time from parts of my family. It's frustrating. But it's even more frustrating that I have to hear people over exaggerating just because characters in a CARTOON are of a different color. OH NO. THAT WHITE CHARACTER CAN'T DANCE WELL IN THAT MOVIE. RACIST! NOT ALL WHITE PEOPLE ARE BAD DANCERS! Come on now. That's just stupid. The stuff they're pointing out is just as stupid as that. Seriously folks, the longer we sweat the small stuff, the longer this crap will last. Oct 1, 2009 7:38 PM
Guest :
I think this is a big overreaction. Although I haven't actually seen the
movie, I think there's nothing wrong with the black girl falling in love
with the white guy. Because why should it be that all the black people in
movies have to fall in love with another black person? Is it like taboo
that they should fall in love with someone of a different race?? Shock,
horror! And about her being a slave, what's wrong with that? Cinderella was
a slave! Anastasia was a slave (I think... I haven't seen it since I was
6)! I think it's actually racist that people are getting so worked up about
these little things... Especially the name Maddy. What should she be called
then? Something undeniably caucasian? Well that's just ridiculous. Disney
should be able to make an un-racist movie about a black princess and not
have to worry about over-PC people making a huge deal out of what is just
normal. The movie's not racist at all, and it makes me angry when people
spoil stuff like this movie just because they can't handle the real world.
Oct 3, 2009 6:52 PM
Guest :
As a fifteen year-old black girl, the prospect of this film was very
exciting to me. For the first time, a four year-old black girl can go to
the movies and see an image of a beautiful girl on the screen, that looks
like her. However, it is highly disappointing that that image will only be
portrayed for less than half of the movie. My issue with the film is not
that the girl turns into a frog, but that it's not her image on the screen
for a significant part of the movie. There are so many other fairytales
that could have been chosen to introduce the first black princess to the
Disney collection. That's my only problem with the film.
Oct 5, 2009 2:33 PM
Guest :
People can be so stupid. I'm a proud African-American but so tired of
hearing about the "race card". THIS is why there aren't MORE
black princesses/princes/protagonists in general. Every time somebody tries
to weave a decent tale about a different race, that race goes berserk and
starts calling EVERYBODY a racist. Disney is NOT racist. I adore their
cartoons and greatly appreciate their endorsement of interracial
relationships. It's SICK that people can condemn their spirit. I love the
name Maddy, too, and wish desperately they hadn't decided to change it (I
have a niece named Madeline - though we call her Maddel). I so look forward
to this movie and really hope the idiots out there trying to cause trouble
for it will shut up long enough for Disney to realize this is a huge (and
profitable) idea. Instead of causing PROBLEMS for them, we should be
saying: "see how much we loved this film? MAKE MORE!"
Oct 21, 2009 8:12 AM
Guest :
First off, Daniels is from one of the worst black stations that belittles
black people everyday, so your opinion does not count! Get away and write
more ignorant storylines for BET! Second, I love the idea of a black
princess, yes its late but its here. We live in White America, so
complaining now is way too late! Now, Maddy is not a slave, heifer, my
daughter's name is Madison and I call her Maddie. Go crawl under a rock
with your whining!
Oct 21, 2009 7:27 PM
Guest :
I find the racism controversy about this movie Pathetic, to stop racism one
way could be to stop bringing it up. It starting to become a frickin witch
hunt. The concept of stereiotyping is getting ridicoulous because
just because a character might be portrayed in a certain way doesn't mean they are saying all ppl of that type are that way, but oviously there are some, and that's that type of character. Gosh, the bad white lady in sleeping beuty was a witch, so was the bad queen in snow white, there both white but that doesn't mean white ppl are witches. Anyway we are all related, there really isn't anything such as race, there is only one race of humans! (It's well..humans..duh). Oct 23, 2009 7:53 AM
Guest :
I'm offended that Disney does not have any blind princesses in a
wheelchair. What is wrong with them? And why are they singling out the
Eskimos too? Where's the representation for the Eskimos? And the fact that
they haven't done any stories about any gay Australian aboriginal albino
princesses to me screams the fact that they are nothing but mean racist
homophobes.
I hate the society we have created with all of our political correctness. Is this really where we wanted to be? No one seems able to live and let live without condemning others for being racist or unfair in some way, and taking offense when none was intended. In all of our efforts to be blind to race we are more aware of it and contentious about it than ever. Oct 26, 2009 9:51 AM
Guest :
One doesn't have to be against inter-racial relationships to desire a black
prince. I thought Disney should of had a black prince, but, its obvious,
its a business decision. Disney stands to lose millions of white audience
members if they cast a "true" black love story. Everyone needs
someone to relate to, unfortunately, blacks only get 50%. So, the
alternative - inter-racial. Is it racist?? That's subjective. More
capitalist than racist in my opinion. Imagine if Disney would of had a
blonde princess with a dark skin prince. LOL - the uproar. Wake up
people!!!
Nov 3, 2009 6:29 AM
Guest :
I've lived in Louisiana most of my life, and I have to say that I am so
excited about this movie! Too often movies are made about New Orleans or
the bayous in Louisiana that are filled to the brim with fake accents and
hideous stereotypes. Judging by the previews I have seen of the Princess
and the Frog, I think Disney has found a great balance between
acknowledging the rich culture of Louisiana and falling prey to
stereotypes. I understand it's a sensitive situation when you are creating
a role model for young girls, but, unfortunately, you can't change history.
What you can do, however, is focus on how disney is taking Tiana on a
journey that will allow her to follow her dreams, which is what is really
important when dealing with a role model for young girls. As for the voodoo
thing, voodoo is very much alive in New Orleans. It is a religion, yes, but
I think disney avoids demeaning it as a religion by having the
"good" voodoo priestess to balance out the villain. The practice
of voodoo is a very strong part of the history of New Orleans culture, and
I am glad that disney included it. Lastly, I just want to give a shout out
to the actress playing Tiana. Her accent is actually southern, not just
country, which seems to be the "southern" accent generally
depicted in movies.
Nov 4, 2009 6:33 AM
Guest :
I am so upset over the controversy that is being made over this film. even
if she is a chambermaid at some point, so were many other princesses. and
why does that make it so magical? because it shows that even if you are
coming from the bottom, you can end up on top in your situation. and about
the name "maddy" isnt that the name of one of the main characters
in "the suite life"? it is a very common name. people are just
looking for things to fuss about. i am half puerto rican/white and i have
some black relatives. i live in the sticks. i can relate to stereotypes
because i live in a mostly white community. i do not think that this movie
is being racist. and so what if she ends up with a white guy, that does
happen in the real world. my mom is polish nd my dad is 100% puerto rican.
this is a diverse contry and they should not be critisized for showing
things that actually occur such as biracial relationships. i think that it
is single minded to say that she shouldnt be shown with a white prince.
shouldnt this show that love knows no boundaries? that our country as a
whole is getting over the "youre black, youre white" type labels?
we are americans. end of the story. we have a diverse background and we all
know, love, and trust disney to show the history in the best and most
magical way possible. i cant wait to see this movie. i am an aspiring
animator and the concept art is breath taking :)
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